#cnc Chat Log

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Author: Ash
Date: 06.01.05 @ 5:26 PM

Yes, it's unformatted, and yes, I left the messages sent to me in there so you can see how bloody busy it was. Bit of a pain to read through but I'd stab something if I tried to make it pretty.



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[Transnote] We'll be giving away a generals t-shirt...
*MP_Test_Player* We know Generals looks better than RA2, but does it play better?
[Transnote] and yes even a copy of Generals retail =)
[rezenous] !
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] =)
*CriticalMass* im a tester can i answer questions with you guys
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Thats some good prizes :)
*GreatGrizzly* why arnt there any air transports for china and the gla?
*dstruct2k* Will Generals be as easily mod'ed as RA2 or Tiberian Sun?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Good luck to all =)
[Transnote] Thanks to [url]http://www.planetcnc.com[/url] - [url]http://www.cncuniverse.com[/url] - [url]http://www.cncseries.com[/url] and [url]http://www.cnc-sector.com[/url] for helping us promote this
[Transnote] Jamie will be playing the role of Delphi tonight
-] *CriticalMass* cannot sorry, have to limit talker
[Ash] Are
[Ash] we
[Jamie[CNCSector]] :)
[Ash] ready
[Transnote] If you have complaints, send them to Jamie[CNCSector]
*Gen_Patton* Will there be a scatter command?
*MP_Test_Player* Are there plans for a group effort ladder from the fansite community?
[Transnote] and a huge thanks
[rezenous] Jamie, watch out for Maniac's hands
[Transnote] to [url]http://www.communityteam.de[/url]
[Transnote] They are the best EA site.
[Ash] - Please, hold on to your q's for one second -
[Transnote] With the sexiest webmasters. =)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
*ZarX* ummm yea im a offical tester what u want me to do?
[Transnote] send your questions to ash
[Ash] - No other testers can talk; have to limit people talking so answers can be read -
[Transnote] by typing "/msg ash hi, this is my question"
[Shinano] without the quote marks, of course
[Ash] - apologies to those testers willing to donate their time -
*Gen_Patton* hi, this is my question Will ther be a Scatter command?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] :)
*dstruct2k* My question: #11,1Will Generals be as easily mod'ed as RA2 or Tiberian Sun?
[Transnote] Ash...
[Transnote] Do we have a question?
[Ash] *MP_Test_Player* We know Generals looks better than RA2, but does it play better?
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* Hi, From what you've seen, are the teams in generals evenly balanced?
*GreatGrizzly* what is the max player that can be on a map in Generals?
[Transnote] Shinano? Jamie?
* Aaron[WWEXP] waves at everyone hi!:)
*ZarX* if the testers cant speak whats the point in being here?
*Emultra* Was the learning curve for Generals easier or harder than other C&C games?
*I_could_be_Delphi* What are the system specs recommended by the webmaster community?
[Transnote] Generals seems to play a little bit slower then RA2, but the fun factor is still there...
[Transnote] better is an odd word
[Shinano] I'd say yes, it does, it has a better balance currently, despite being in the testing phase
[Transnote] means different things to different people
[Shinano] I like the "feel" better, but it's a very subjective question
*dstruct2k* Will Generals be as easily mod'ed as RA2 or Tiberian Sun? Will we have to learn a new language to make a mod for it?
[Ash] k?
[Transnote] next?
[Ash] *GreatGrizzly* why arnt there any air transports for china and the gla?
*Emultra* Does your framerate differ dramatically in Generals, depending on the situation?
*Drlife202-CNC* [Ash I have a 1000mhzz computer,and i'm getting a geforce 4 graphics card soon, will generals run fine if I get a geforce 4 with my 1000mhz comp]
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* Do you think generals will offer good modding/mapping possibilites?
*Bomer* is the zoom and roation of the cam useful in generals or do you set it an ignore it for the rest of the battle ?
[Transnote] China and GLA were hated by the Americans.
*ZarX* if the testers cant speak whats the point in being here?
[Transnote] Therefore the US blew up all of their planes.
[Transnote] Next?
*Axion* hi, I've always been displeased with the unit vs unit system for C&C games, ie. Tanks have a hard time killing infantry. Is it still as bad in this game? Does this bother anyone or do they like it that way?
[Shen] It would be a significant imbalance if you could air transport china's heavy tanks
*Navy_SEAL55_[GF]* This is my question: Does the person say battlefield online/offline?
[Transnote] Imagine 20 overlords behind your base?
[Shinano] heh that's a designer's question really, but the GLA have their tunnels, and the Chinese are designed to be slow moving
*BigMac* hi this is my question: Does the ability to zoom rotate etc give the game a better feel to generals or is it more of a nuisance?
*Emultra* Do you ever play against any EAP employees?
[Ash] k?
[Shinano] so it's a balance thing I assume, trying to make the sides different
[Shen] yes, instantaneous transport beats a helicopter
*I_could_be_Delphi* I heard that most games played always result in tank battles is this true?
*Emultra* What is your favotire super weapon?
[Transnote] Ash?
[Ash] *dstruct2k* Will Generals be as easily mod'ed as RA2 or Tiberian Sun?
[Transnote] EASIER =)
[Shinano] more easily
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] loads easier
[Shinano] definitely, the inis are a LOT more indepth, they allow modification of engineering parameters, skins, etc
[Transnote] for those unaware, RVMECH has been working with EA for the year almost?
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* Won't it be hard to make accurate 3d models ?
[Transnote] creating maps for Generals that will be in the retail
*GreatGrizzly* Do you thin kthey are going to put walls in the game or was that voted out by the community?
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] yes
*Emultra* What is the single most significant improvement over other C&C games?
[Transnote] Also.. in RA2 where you needed to edit an ini file to change something....
[Transnote] in Generals you can incorporate these changes in to the map/mod file
*Bomer* has the beta been tweaked much since you got it, if so what has been wreaked , balance ?
*Drlife202-CNC* [I have a 1000mhzz computer,and i'm getting a geforce 4 graphics card soon, will generals run fine if I get a geforce 4 with my 1000mhz comp]
*End3r* hey my question: In what ways will it be easier to mod? could you plesase explain what makes it easier than ra2 or TS?
*Rodoom* will you be able to install an spawned version of the game for multiplayer only?
*Emultra* How much better has the beta now become since the first version of it?
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *Gen_Patton* Will there be a scatter command?
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* will a high speed connection be required to play online without dreaded lag ?
[Shinano] there is
[Shen] There already is
[Shinano] the shortcut key is "x"
*[HEL]Raiden* I heard cheating will be 'harder' to do in Generals. Whats been added?
*CriticalMass* Ok I'm a tester and the beat test is nearly over yet theres been only one patch, will there be more patches?
*Transnote* do we have a lot of q's?
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *MP_Test_Player* Are there plans for a group effort ladder from the fansite community?
[Transnote] ahhhhhhhh..... =)
[Shinano] we will be cooperating a lot more than in the past
[Transnote] The following sites have made an agreement to host one community ladder:
[Shen] Yes, they're uh.. highly classified right now :)
*Emultra* What is the netcode's performance like, compared to RA2?
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* do natural events occur during gameplay? eg storms earthquakes etc
*Drlife202-CNC* Ash I have a 1000mhzz computer,and i'm getting a geforce 4 graphics card soon, will generals run fine if I get a geforce 4 with my 1000mhz comp
[TheKiller] =)
*Emultra* What is Generals hardest on, CPU, RAM or GFX-card?
[Transnote] - RenegadeGenerals, CNC Sector, Westwood: Unleashed, Generals Factory, PlanetCNC, CNC Den/RADEN, CNCUprising/C-I, CNC Universe, GenEdit2K, N00bstories, Westwood Nation / CNCGenerals.com, CNC Series, CNC Downloads, CNC GeneralsWorld, C&C: Time Of War (french), C&C Saga (french), C&C FTP (french), CVSV (french)
[Ash] It's big =)
[Transnote] I know i'm missing several sites that have volunteered to help as well.. but we are aiming to be one of the biggest ladders
*d4rkcyde* can users create formations?
[Transnote] Complaints and cheats will be handled by a group of admins from each site
[TheKiller] It's going to be big ;)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Very big =)
[Transnote] it will not be run by any single person
[TheKiller] We don't do small
*CriticalMass* What about our site? It already has a ladderr set up and ppl are using it.
[Transnote] we will check the players, and most of all check each other
*ZarX* hello?
*Emultra* Will there be any tournaments and prices on the fansite ladder?
[Transnote] Prizes are quiet likely, but we can't say much more then that
*sameolj* Will briges be destroyable in multiplayer in the final version?
[Transnote] ash?
*Remirol_Nacnud* will the members of fan sites be trying to mod Generals to solve any balance issues that EAP missed?
*Drlife202-CNC* I have a 1000mhzz computer,and i'm getting a geforce 4 graphics card soon, will generals run fine if I get a geforce 4 with my 1000mhz comp
[Ash] *Dunhamzzz-EGN* Hi, From what you've seen, are the teams in generals evenly balanced?
*Rodoom* will there be official "map packs" released very often?
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* will generals be cheat/hack free? because thats what is runngi down ra2 at the moment
[Shen] With the exception of a few minor issues on some sides, I'd say they're balanced
*GreatGrizzly* I heard that 5 infantry units can go inside a humvee and shoot out of it, does the GLA and China have a unit that can do that?
[Transnote] The GLA hole exploit bothers me (no we won't describe it)
* Shen doesn
[Shinano] Overall, despite what you might see on the official boards, the teams are already pretty well balanced, we have some issues, but theyre not huge
*Emultra* Do you think rushing is easier or harder to stop in Generals, ht
[Transnote] but i've been assured it will be corrected before the game is released
*Remirol_Nacnud* "Will the fan sites be working together to mod Generals with a version that has better balancing? Such as to correct issues that EAP have missed?
[Shinano] and EAP seems to know of most of the issues (including the hole exploit)
[Transnote] true shen...
[Transnote] Am I the only one who thinks USA has the best early game advantage?
[Ash] Nope
[Shen] nope
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] nope
[moe] no
[Ash] USA have the best scouting ablities in the game
*LakerFan* Hey Ash
[Ash] fast unit, the Humvee
*Emultra* What is your favorite side, and why?
*Navy_SEAL55_[GF]* Here is another question: How will you control where the Particle cannon fires? by waypoints?
[Shinano] especially if you choose the UAV as your first experience point
[Shen] And the Hummer filled with rocket soldiers
*ZarX* dude let me speak also otherwise its pointless for me to be here
*LakerFan* I just wanna know how the thing runs on everyone's computers
[Transnote] Also Humvees with missile defenders if great against even overlords
[Ash] (thats the little drone that spies)
*LakerFan* And what they're stats are
*RenGen_Visitor4* ash that you I have to talk to you quick ?
[dam0kles] i hate it :(
*DDB* Hi, Ash "From what you have seen so far, are we going to have problems with pre-mature attacks from opposing forces soon after we enter a game ?" Hows that ash ?
[Shen] who doesn't?
[Transnote] Dam0kles from [url]http://www.communityteam.de[/url] loves the China Migs =)
[Ash] dam0kles was the first person to use the Missle Men & Humvee on me, though!
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
*Remirol_Nacnud* "If EAP stops supporting Generals as they did RA2, will the mod community work together to support the game themselves?"
[Transnote] Ash?
*Shinano* should probably wrap this question up
[Jamie[CNCSector]] hehe
[Ash] *GreatGrizzly* what is the max player that can be on a map in Generals?
*DDB* you may edit if need be to be more understandable
[Transnote] in the multiplayer test 4
[Transnote] in the final, 8
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] 8
[Shen] I think its 8 if the map allows it
*Emultra* Are MiG's more effective against ground/air?
*Axion* Do you feel as if all units for each army play an important role the entire game, or do some units become more or less useless as a game progresses?
*Emultra* How big are the maps in the beta?
[Transnote] ash?
*Bomer* Are their any lag issues with generals ?
[Ash] *Emultra* Was the learning curve for Generals easier or harder than other C&C games?
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*CriticalMass* Dude this game laggs like hell on a 2v2 map, What do you plan to do on a 4v4?
*LakerFan* Cuz I wanna know how bad it lags
*BigMac* hi again another question when u have time: has a unit limit been set per side in a battle?
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
*RenGen_Visitor4* I can answer questions to help out is it ok if I can ? I do run a C&C Website =) Can I help out ?
[Ash] Uh guys
[Shinano] hmm, i'd say easier to get to the stage where you can put up a fight, but more difficult to be truly proficient... that's the sense I get so far
[Shen] Easier and harder lol
[Transnote] For me the learning curve was very small. The hardest thing to get used to was the Warcraft style unit building. To produce a unit you need to click on the correct structure, instead of in RA2 having everything on one sidebar
[Ash] It's easy to get to grips with
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* Are there lots of tactical possibilites? like the flak track bomb and IFV combos of ra2?
[Ash] but to get reeeally good (not like me) takes longer
*End3r* what new technology is being used in the game? as in developing and or playing.
[Shen] It was kind of easy getting used to the new scenario, but it was a bit of a learning experience with the different style of building
[Shinano] Ash still hasn't mastered the proficient part ;)
[Ash] Haha
[Transnote] next. =)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[Shen] Yes Shin, you proved that
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
[Ash] *I_could_be_Delphi* What are the system specs recommended by the webmaster community?
*RenGen_Visitor2* [Will a Ge Force 4 - 64 MB card run generals on high graphics settings smoothly?
[Transnote] I recomend an IBM Ascii White
[Shinano] if money grew on trees, as good as you can get
*Emultra* What unit gives the most bang for the buck?
[Transnote] IBM today announced that the company has built the world's fastest supercomputer--capable of 12 trillion calculations per second--more than three times faster than the most powerful computer in existence today. Known as ASCI White, the RS/6000 SP supercomputer covers an area the size of two basketball courts and will be used by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) program to help ensure the safety and reliability of the nation's nuclear weapons stockpi
[Shinano] but realistically, with a gamer's budget, you want a good vid card first and foremost, that's even more important than processing power
[Ash] LOL
[Shinano] so i'd recommend at least a 64 meg good card, then 1ghz chip, then 256 megs of ram
[Shinano] in that order
[Shen] Good Video card (GeForce 2, not MX, or higher), a decent processor
[Transnote] If anyone have an extra ASCI white hanging around, please send me an e-mail. =)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Note: People are pming me asking why they can't chat. The room is moderated, this means you can not chat =)
[Ash] Yes, the one Trans described is a safe bet for a good FPS ;)
[Shinano] but as people have proved, you can run it on a lemon powered computer
*Rodoom* will there be capability for direct IP games?
[Ash] Haha
[Shinano] it just wont look good
[Transnote] I've played the beta on a p4 1.7 with a geforce 2
[Ash] But coal workers better.
[Transnote] it was't bad...
*User_Name* how are the superweapons balanced? for example: which is the strongest/weakest, can a nuke destroy a whole base etc?
[Shen] I'm playing it on an XP 2100+ with a GF4 Ti4400
[Transnote] but the internal EA builds that we don't see have been more optimized and the game will run very decent on many systems when it comes out
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *Emultra* Does your framerate differ dramatically in Generals, depending on the situation?
*GreatGrizzly* Will there be many responses from each unit or will it have the usual few like in RA2? Cuz itll get boring with so little responses.
*Yuri_Kenobi* Do you know is DirectX9 will be included in Generals?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] I play my beta on a 1.8 amdxp with g force 2 256 ram
*Emultra* What's the biggest issue in the beta that needs adressing?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] the only problem I get is ram :)
*Remirol_Nacnud* "what is the minimum connection that you can use and keep Generals playable?"
[Ash] Yes Emultra it will
*LakerFan* What kinda ram does Jamie have tho?
[Shen] Well, there is a noticable framerate drop on high detail situations (nuke, too many flame tanks using fire wall)
*Emultra* message
[Shinano] yes, my framerate will hover at 50 in calm situations (even with a lot of stuff onscreen), but during a battle it can drop to 25
[Ash] At the start of the game I have 50-55 FPS
[Transnote] I stay at about a consistant 50-60 during most play. There is a HUGE drop however on events such as nuclear bomb. On a Pentium 4 - 2 ghz with 768mb ram and a ti4600 geforce 4, 3 nukes at the same time almost froze my computer
[Shinano] flametanks hurt framerates badly
*General_Rambo* (Modding Quesiton) Will we be able to add more buildings to the... lets say the USA side.
[Ash] near the end with my force of Buggies, usually around 25
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] Depending on the ploys incorporated in the map and the and vertices along with the particles the frame can vary quite a bit
*GreatGrizzly* Can the terrain be deformed like in TS?
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] polys
*ZarX* dude let me speak also otherwise its pointless for me to be here
[Shinano] you werent the guy that tried to cram 10000 objects into a map, were you rv? :)
*LakerFan* How adjustable are the graphics?
*I_could_be_Delphi* Which interface type do you prefer? RA2/Yuri or Generals? In your opinion which is more efficient?
[Shen] lol
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] no
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] lol
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[Transnote] ash?
*CriticalMass* this is a joke im out of here, all your doing is answering the same ppl.
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
[Ash] *Drlife202-CNC* [Ash I have a 1000mhzz computer,and i'm getting a geforce 4 graphics card soon, will generals run fine if I get a geforce 4 with my 1000mhz comp]
[Shinano] yes
[Transnote] Yes.
[Shen] Assuming you have enough RAM
[Shinano] provided you have theram needs
[Shinano] at least 128 of ddr would be good
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *Bomer* is the zoom and roation of the cam useful in generals or do you set it an ignore it for the rest of the battle ?
*Rodoom* will it run fine with a 56k modem? or do I NEED DSL?
[Shen] I kind of ignore it really
*Emultra* Will you try to get Delphi or Devinoch to play on your ladder?
[Shen] unless I need to see what's on the other side of a building
[Transnote] I only zoom for screenshots, I ignore it in most cases unless I swivel to see what is around a building
*dstruct2k* sorry to annoy you by saying this so many times
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *Axion* hi, I've always been displeased with the unit vs unit system for C&C games, ie. Tanks have a hard time killing infantry. Is it still as bad in this game? Does this bother anyone or do they like it that way?
*Yuri_Kenobi* How will a 650 mhz computer run Generals? Will it run it at all?
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* What makes generals 3d engine so special?Is it similiar to EBFD or even the old dogs of war?
*OogaShaka* My twos questions are - what methods and balances have been implemented to curb on early rushes - and are superweapons optional?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Note: The room is moderated. You can not chat while the event is taking place
*LakerFan* Do you get better, worse, or nonchanging FPS when you zoom?
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
[Shinano] hmm, if you dont like the "rocks paper scissors" balance, that's a bad sign, as it's still in this game
[Shen] Normal tanks (shells) won't kill infantry in this game as well
*OogaShaka* oops 'two'
*Emultra* Can you control units garrisoned in buildings, or is it just inside or outside?
[Transnote] While US crusader is weak against infantry, the humvee and paladin are not. Each US tank also has an upgrade where you can add a drone that will take out infantry quite easily
[Shinano] rocketmen can annhilate tanks
[Transnote] overlords are weak against them unless you build a gattling canon on top of it
[Shinano] but then flame tanks can get them
*sovietni* yo dude
*Jamie[CNCSector]* hi ash
[Shen] Rocketmen can annihilate tanks, which is good, because it provides a balance
*Jamie[CNCSector]* how do peeps message you again?
*sovietni* do i pm u if i have a question
[Ash] - Yes, if you have a question, type /msg Ash [question]
[Transnote] ash?
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
*Emultra* Are infantry units as slow in Generals as in RA2?
*Planetshaun[cncseries]* I need to speak to you
[Ash] d'oh hold on
[Jamie[CNCSector]] type /msg ash question to ask ash a question
[Transnote] And then we'll go to the first prize :p
*CriticalMass* how retarded is that
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade?
*sameolj* use mine..
*LakerFan* [question]
*InKar* Whats the coolest super-weapon?
*Stryder88* do you believe generals is balanced? if not what needs to be changed?
*Emultra* What box art will you buy?
*skrip00* su[
*LakerFan* Oops
[Ash] *Navy_SEAL55_[GF]* This is my question: Does the person say battlefield online/offline?
*CriticalMass* lol what a joke
*LakerFan* Sorry
*Benlanka[CncPlace]* Are the harvesters in C&C: Generals going to be as dumb as they were in C&C:RA or do they have REAL AI this time?
*Planetshaun[cncseries]* I can answer questions to help out, please just reply back if you need me or don't please
*RenGen_Visitor2* [What about a 900mhz - 128 RAM - Ge Force 4 - 64 MB. Will i be fine?]
[Transnote] I've never seen anyone say that.
[Ash] Sorry for the late reply, I have OVER 70 questions to sort through! Keep 'em coming!
[Transnote] Perhaps I'm missing the question
[Shinano] a version of EVA is still very much alive, but no it doesnt say that atm
[Shinano] this could all change in retail
*GreatGrizzly* Are infantry able to pass through thick forests, climb up rocks ect. or are they limited to the same terrain as tanks?
[Transnote] Ok
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] it wasin the early early version
*Aaron[WWEXP]* How are the chat rooms and buddy list and messenger? easy to use etc....?
[Shinano] it says many different things though, dont worry, the EVA tradition is alive
*Emultra* Are the EVA units (or similar) different for all the sides
*InKar* i played generals with the "sandbox" patch, and it looks like the GLA is more difficult to use than the other 2 sides. What do you think about this?
*dstruct2k* so i should stop bugging you? sorry if i've been annoying
[Transnote] ok
*End3r* question: are there any plans for expansion packs?
[Transnote] to answer the trivia question...
*Yuri_Kenobi* Isn't the Bulldozers a little bit too big step away from CnC?
*Emultra* How many infantry units can fit into a Hummvee?
[Ash] - if you havent been answered, wait, there are loads left -
[Transnote] type /msg transnote "this is my answer"
[Ash] *BigMac* hi this is my question: Does the ability to zoom rotate etc give the game a better feel to generals or is it more of a nuisance?
[Transnote] ....
* Transnote hits ash with his grand theft auto baseball bat
[Shen] haha
[rezenous] Silly Ash
[Shinano] hmm that's similar to a question just asked
[Shen] answer the question first, you can have your trivia right after this
[Shinano] try another ;)
[Transnote] okay..
[Ash] Bah
[Transnote] i'll wait :p
[Ash] *Emultra* Do you ever play against any EAP employees?
[Transnote] Yes
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] yes
[Transnote] they are AMAZING plays
[Shen] Haven't yet :(
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Yes
* Transnote gives a shout out to Adam at EAP =)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Elmar is good
*Shufty-EGN* can new maps be transferred player to player whilst connecting?
[Shinano] yes, i'd like to point out mr black EAP too
[Transnote] dam0kles is really good with china
[dam0kles] Elmar smells...
[Shen] Elmar's not EAP though :-/
[Shinano] crushed me like a bug :)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Keep a look out for him when you get the game ;)
*Drlife202-CNC* Can you still do tank rush's in generals or are the base defences to powerfull?
*BigMac* another question: Does the ranking of yourself (the star system) give better playability or is it a nuisance?
*mcgl0re1_[cnczone]* In all your opinions what is your recommended system requirments to make the game run great?
[Shen] Elmar is good yes, he crushed dam0 too
[Shen] :)
[Transnote] Delphi needs some practice though...
[Jamie[CNCSector]] indeed
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] Dustin is downright brutal
[Transnote] The Lead Designer Dustin killed me in about 2 minutes
[Transnote] TRIVIA TIME
*Emultra* What's the most important thing to remember when trying to get good at playing Generals?
[Shinano] here we go, make it good trans :)
[Transnote] first person to say the answer in the channel wins
* Transnote sets mode: -m
[dstruct2k] awesome
[Transnote] what side doesn't have aircraft?
[LakerFan] answer
[dstruct2k] china
[Axion] GLA
[cold_bomb] gla
[Jamie[CNCSector]] gla!
[Yuri_Kenobi] GLA
* Transnote sets mode: +m
[LakerFan] I WIN!
[rezenous] gla
[rezenous] grr lag
[Transnote] Axion wins a Generals T-shirt =)
[Ash] WINNER! Axion!
[Jamie[CNCSector]] !!!
[Jamie[CNCSector]] weldone Axion =)
[Ash] Congrats Axion
[dam0kles] Congrats :)
[Ash] Lemme get a question
[Ash] *I_could_be_Delphi* I heard that most games played always result in tank battles is this true?
*LakerFan* Are the 3D graphics going to make modding Generals more difficult for average modders around the community?
[Shen] Not when I play :)
*sovietni* will the chinishe version of tayna have her own mission do u know
[Transnote] not always...
[Shinano] most of the time, a force of tanks does mass, but it's not always the deciding factor
[Transnote] i prefer air battles
[Shen] I prefer being sneaky with rebel ambushes
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[Transnote] I had an AMAZING game against dam0kles that was my auroras and raptors vs his migs
[Shinano] the US and china players like air battles, and shen loves his demo trucks
*dstruct2k* Is Generals being shipped with a map editor, or even a mod editor like the one that was released for Renegade? (last time i say it)
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] I use hummers
*Emultra* Your favorite feat of generals?
[Ash] Shen kills me with Terrorists early on
[Transnote] And a Colonel Burton behind a base at the right time can catch people off guard
[Shinano] indeed, Colonel burton is probably my favorite unit, he can turn the whole game around for you
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[Shen] I prefer Jarmen Kell, but that's probably just me
[Transnote] I hated him at first...
[Shinano] Colonel Burton, by the way, is the US's elite commando, equipped with C4 and a chain gun, as well as stealth capability
*InKar* whats the best way to get rid of a "bomb truck". Does it explode if you kill it?
*Bomer* Is the lack of a navy a dissappointed or is it not noticed
*Emultra* What's the overall most useful unit of each faction?
[Transnote] Most people don't know... Colonel Burton can climb up and down cliffs that no other unit can get to
*sameolj* Have you used the hero units to do sneak attacks with the chinook like many people did with the transport chopper in RA2? If so how successfull have they been?
[Ash] Only detected b base defense or special units
*OogaShaka* one more question - not that my first will get answered .. =( ... can you attack aircraft to aircraft in mid-air .. opposing sides?
* Planetshaun[cncseries] is now known as Planetshaun[Planetshaun]
*Emultra* Can you have an infinite number of Hackers and Mines?
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *Emultra* What is your favotire super weapon?
[Shen] Nuclear Missile :)
[Transnote] Nuke. =)
[Shinano] The nuke, I think it's just about everyone's favorite
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] daisy cutter
*Planetshaun[Planetshaun]* I can help with the answering of questions to help,
[Transnote] The best explosion effect. =)
[Shinano] however, once the particle cannon can be guided manually, then that will be my favorite
[Transnote] daisy cutter = fuel air bomb
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Fuel air bomb by far :)
[dam0kles] I only need 20 MIGs... dont need a super weapon...
[Transnote] ash?
[Shinano] you will be able to trace a path for the particle cannon, which will let you carve up the enemy's base like a thanksgiving turkey :)
*Rodoom* are there taunts?, whats your favorite?
* Shen runs a few gattling tanks over to dam0's base
* Shen was kicked by Transnote (Dam0 sends 10 migs after Shen#)
* WWBot sets mode: +o Shen
[Shen] ow
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] If your question isn't answered, be patient, there are literraly HUNDREDS in my window
[Transnote] ok
[Shinano] haha
[Transnote] stop messaging ash for a minute guys =)
[Ash] *Dunhamzzz-EGN* Won't it be hard to make accurate 3d models ?
[Shinano] make his client crash!
*Dunhamzzz-EGN* How can community sites go about gwttinhg involved in the ladder?
[Transnote] We don't know yet if we can import our own 3d models....
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] yes you can
-LakerFan- I can help if you
want
[Transnote] Thank you RVMECH
[Transnote] We just learned we will have the ability to import our own 3d models
*Stryder88* are urban battles cooler/more important than is ra2?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Cool =)
[Transnote] 3d models depend on the modeller =)
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *GreatGrizzly* Do you thin kthey are going to put walls in the game or was that voted out by the community?
* u_can_import_em_into_gmax is now known as Lymmen
[Shinano] yes, the models can be imported for viewing into gmax at this time :)
[Transnote] Walls were in the early internal builds
* rezenous sets mode: +N
[Transnote] they have been removed for good
* Transnote sets mode: -N
[Shinano] design decision, nothing to do with us
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[Transnote] As for importing in to GMAX, we don't know =)
[ImustDIE] Who ever used walls in any of the previous CnC games? =P
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] they can be adde by modifying the ini
[TheKiller] ##ww Admin Notice:# Can users please stop using their nicknames to talk. Its very annoying and doesn't assist the mp testers, the ops or the folks trying to listen. Thanks.
[Shen] IMD: anyone who wanted their cons yard to remain theirs
[Transnote] rvmech: in the final?
[rezenous] Planetshaun, do that again and you're gone.
[ImustDIE] I suppose that explains why I was never any good at RA2/TS/any of them
[Transnote] ash next question?
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] walls art is still there
*Overmind* will the map editor still be released about a month ahead of time as was mentioned earlier
[Transnote] wow =)
[Ash] *Emultra* What is the single most significant improvement over other C&C games?
*Bomer* We have found out who good and who not within eap , what about the webbys who's the best ?
*sameolj* grr uve picked like 50 of emultras qs
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] Support
[Transnote] 18 months of support from EA?
[Transnote] with a dedicated team
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Indeed
[Shinano] graphics
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Support is going to be good with this game =)
[Transnote] I would agree support is going to be stellar
[Transnote] next q ash?
*Emultra* How do you feel the development team has listened to your comments about the game?
[Ash] - As some have been suggesting, I AM NOT SELECTING QUESTIONS! I am merely going in order of what I'm getting
*Planetshaun* Ash I can help with answering questions.
[Ash] *Bomer* has the beta been tweaked much since you got it, if so what has been wreaked , balance ?
[Shinano] two patches have been issued since we've got it, so there is tweaking going on
[Transnote] The GLA technical rush has been eliminated =)
[Shen] Tweaking is still going on though, and there is supposed to be a list of changes up sometime in the near future
[Ash] No it hasn't!
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Yes, alot of rushing improvements etc
[Shinano] and shanahan posted a note on the official boards regarding more balance changes, whether they will be incorporated into the test, or just retail, we dont know
[Transnote] well it's been slowed.
[Ash] Techi rush is ace
[Transnote] =)
[Ash] w/ Terrorists, especially heh
[Transnote] next q ash?
[Shinano] and this is why ash is not a good player ;) j/k
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[Ash] bah
[Ash] :p
[Jamie[CNCSector]] :p
[Ash] *Drlife202-CNC* [I have a 1000mhzz computer,and i'm getting a geforce 4 graphics card soon, will generals run fine if I get a geforce 4 with my 1000mhz comp]
[Shen] Techi rush is missing, Suicide cars still exist
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Yes
[Shen] um
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] currently yes
[Shinano] umm already done
[Shen] Ash, that's already been asked?
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[Ash] well just answer lol
[Transnote] Yes it will
[Transnote] next =)
*Emultra* What would you like to say to the non-believers about Generals?
[Ash] I can't filter through, you'd all die of old age
[Transnote] =)
[Transnote] thats fine
[Ash] *End3r* hey my question: In what ways will it be easier to mod? could you plesase explain what makes it easier than ra2 or TS?
[Transnote] The map editor is like using photoshop
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] ini files are arranged with a bit of intelligence
[Transnote] but the map editor allows you to easily change things that would normally be in an ini
[Shinano] very intuitive, as far as actual changes, yes, the inis are split up
* Ash is so bad at Pshop it's untrue: he isn't pleased
*Emultra* Is there a connection filter (only allow/disallow) or a ping filter?
[Transnote] Sorry, paintbrush, not photoshop
[Transnote] =)
* Ash sucks at that too
[Shinano] and you can sort all manner of things like skins, models, textures, into their own directory
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[Jamie[CNCSector]] same here
[Transnote] next q
[Shinano] so they dont get cluttered, and you dont have to mess with the .big encrypted formats
*Rocketerz* RVMECH do any of your maps have weather (etc. snow, rain falling?)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] Everyone sucks at paintbursh :p
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] I don't
[Shen] No jamie, just you
[Transnote] =)
*Sean* What teams are you in favour of? And why?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] what can you do in paint brush?
[Jamie[CNCSector]] make a naff pic :p
[Transnote] NEXT Q =)
* WWBot says Welcome to the RenegadeGenerals.com Beta Chat - Thanks to Elite-IRC for Making This Possible
[WWBot] Type "/nick [your_new_nickname]" to change your nickname in the main chat window
[WWBot] To submit a question, type "/msg ash [your question here]"
[Ash] *Emultra* How much better has the beta now become since the first version of it?
[WWBot] only submit your question once, we will get to it
[Ash] Uh we seen that aint we?
[Transnote] no..
[Ash] oh, don't mind me
[Transnote] There have been many changes....mainly balance
[Ash] all these questions are getting to my head...
[Transnote] the retail will be a huge jump
[Transnote] next q
[Shinano] as for as optimization for the engine, that's in the retail, not our version
*Emultra* Do you know if, for example, the nice smoke trails in the early screenshots are present in the retail?
* Transnote pokes ash with a stick
[Shen] Ash: next question!
[Ash] alright
[Ash] lol
[Ash] *Dunhamzzz-EGN* will a high speed connection be required to play online without dreaded lag ?
[Shinano] dont be malcontent
[Ash] haha
[Shen] Performance is pretty good even against 56k players from my experience
[Shinano] honestly, id recommend a broadband connect if at all possible
[Jamie[CNCSector]] I play with a 56k, Its really not that lagy at all
[Shinano] but 56k works
[Transnote] I've played 4 players with 56kers and it wasn't terrible, but broadband makes everything better =)
[Shinano] and works surprisingly well
[Shen] it wouldn't kill you to use 56k, but yes, like Shin said, go with broadband
* Transnote pokes ash with the question stick again
[Ash] *[HEL]Raiden* I heard cheating will be 'harder' to do in Generals. Whats been added?
[Shinano] but yes, even people marooned without broadband can play 4player games
[Ash] SEE? Steve was still typing!
[Shen] Ash: shhh
*Emultra* What is your favorite player number on maps in terms of # of players/lag?
* Ash tuts and begins the scrolling squinting maneuver again
[Transnote] easy on the comments guys =)
[Shinano] any ini modification will of course cause a game mismatch, but the software is also being coded differently, things like shroud reveal will be more closely monitored
*LakerFan* Is EAP making an effort to make Generals more secure online to prevent the onslaught of hackers that happened with RA2?
[Shinano] and if you want a map hack, just play as US
[Shinano] ;)
[Shen] lol
[Transnote] from the genearls developer webpage:
[Transnote] How are you doing to combat cheaters, washers, hacks, etc. for C&C Generals Online?
[Shen] Yes, that Spy Drone is a pain
[Transnote] Disconnections: Player will have the ability to set the max allowable disconnects that his opponent may have. In other words, if a player doesn"t want to QuickMatch with any player with over 10 disconnects then he never will.
[Transnote] Trainers: First, C&C Generals will embed more synchs between games which will make it harder for someone to use a Trainer online since the games will go out of synch (hence, a reason why we"re tracking disconnects as mentioned above).
[Transnote] Second, we"re planning on having the game notify a player when his opponent has modified his version of C&C Generals. That way, a player will get a quick heads up on what activity his opponent may or may not be engaged in.
[Transnote] Replays: Players will be able to submit replays to the folks who run ladders and provide proof of a cheater. They, in turn, can lock out any known cheaters from their ladders.
*Emultra* How does the Artillery Barrage work?
[Transnote] any cheats that get by the system, will be patched by the live team in place for at least 18 months from the time of launch
*Stryder88* are there any "useless" units (like for example the paladin maybe)?
[Transnote] next q ash?
[Ash] *Emultra* What is the netcode's performance like, compared to RA2?
[Shinano] this is planned in our version of the ladder, if you play a suspected cheater, make sure you keep a record ;)
[Ash] fast enough?
[Ash] :p
[Shen] Netcode from what I've seen is good for speeds
*`Skull* ask them what encryption gayspy uses ;)
*Emultra* Do the MiG Napalm Bombs look the same as the Napalm Strike that was removed?
[Shen] but at the same time, there are presently issues with firewalls/routers that I'm sure will be fixed by retail
[Transnote] the netcode isn't bad...
[Transnote] but needs some SERIOUS work with routers and firewalls
[Shinano] not as abd as you may have heard
[Shinano] but yes, firewalls are its enemy
[Ash] Shinano Shen Mark & I can never finish a game though, for some reason :p
[Shinano] a speed slider will help for people who want to play faster
[Shen] Ash: wedid
[Transnote] ash?
[Shen] This morning
[Ash] Oh yeah. Well you quit
[Ash] *Dunhamzzz-EGN* do natural events occur during gameplay? eg storms earthquakes etc
[Shen] i didn't
[Ash] did too
[Shinano] a question was just asked of harvard about this
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] not on the mpt maps
*Shen* I surrenderred, i was still in game :P
[Shinano] you can get natural disasters scripted, like the dam burst, etc
* BlackFrog is now known as MeepMAn
[Shinano] im sure you could invent an earthquake of some sort, if youre clever with the scripting
*Emultra* What is the budget of your fansite ladder? Or will people work for free?
[Shinano] but rain, etc, I don't know
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] quite easy actually
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[Shinano] that's up to the developers
[Shen] I'd like to see someone do a meteor storm :D
[Shinano] well rvmech you're clever with the scripting, so it's easy for you :P
[Transnote] 6 - Will there be weather effects like precipitation in Generals? If not, will modders be able to add this?
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] yes
[Transnote] We'll see. If we get a spare cycle we'll put it in. Right now we're working hard on bugs, balance, etc. - Harvard Bonin
*Emultra* Will it be easier to design maps in Generals than with FinalAlert? Is there an aditional learning curve, due to the 3D?
[Transnote] heh
[Transnote] RVMECH knows all. =)
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *Emultra* What is Generals hardest on, CPU, RAM or GFX-card?
[Transnote] my mouse hand. =)
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] lol
[Transnote] it needs a bit of everything to work right.
[Transnote] next q?
[Shinano] yep
[TheKiller] Emultra is currently the keenest question asker ;)
[Ash] gawd
[Shinano] but gfx is extremely important
[Ash] one sec
[dam0kles] the memory on your gfx..
[Shen] GFX would appear to be the most important from what I've seen
[Ash] *d4rkcyde* can users create formations?
[Shinano] we heard they wanted to put this in, so far we don't know if that's still planned, another question to put to the developers
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] currently ..no
[Transnote] =)
* Transnote gives RVMECH a cookie
[Transnote] I hope they do put formations....
* RVMECH[CNCDEN winks
[Transnote] i'm tired of my humvees racing ahead of my crusaders and getting slaughered
[Ash] Yes, Buggies often run too far ahead
[Ash] yes, like that
[Transnote] buggies as well, they are weak armored
*BrutalGB* question
[Transnote] ash?
*BrutalGB* question
[Ash] *sameolj* Will briges be destroyable in multiplayer in the final version?
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] yes
[Transnote] ash?
[dam0kles] yes
[dam0kles] it will
*BrutalGB* does generals have a similar layout to yr?
[Transnote] Destroyable bridges it is ! =)
[Ash] OK, questions are spilling over to new windows, hold on
[Ash] *Remirol_Nacnud* will the members of fan sites be trying to mod Generals to solve any balance issues that EAP missed?
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[RVMECH[CNCDEN] heheheh
[Transnote] I'm not sure if that falls so much to the fan site as the modders. I can run a website, but I'm not sure if I can mod :P
[RVMECH[CNCDEN] molre than likely
[Shinano] that would be difficult, it'd be easier to convince EAP to patch such a thing, then make everyone download our mod :)
*LakerFan* Do you get better, worse, or nonchanging FPS when you zoom?
*LakerFan* How adjustable are the graphics?
[Shen] Everyone's got a different idea of what true balance is, expect people to try to build mods with their ideas in mind
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[Transnote] Ok...
[Shinano] but as for custom rules, yea I know I'll be trying my hand at it :)
[Transnote] trivia time.
[Transnote] i'm gonna make this hard...
[Shen] Yes, how old is Transnote?
[Shen] :P
[rezenous] 4
[rezenous] Woot
[rezenous] Prize for me
[rezenous] :\
[Ash] - Please don't submit your question twice, it's taking a long time because there are just so many to br answered - thanks -
[Ash] *Rodoom* will there be official "map packs" released very often?
[Transnote] in my discussion forum at [url]http://www.renegadegenerals.com/forum[/url]
*BrutalGB* sorry, I only learnt about commands in mirc, don't really understand it :oþ
[Transnote] there is a trvia question
[Transnote] in one of the forums
[Transnote] with the subject BETA CHAT Contest question
[Transnote] first to answer the question
[Transnote] wins a copy of Generals
[Transnote] =)
[Ash] Nice way to lose EVERYBODY
[Shinano] that's up to the designers, again. However, EAP has hinted that they will be releasing map packs
[Transnote] you can't work for a fan site though
[Shen] can i answer? hehe
*LakerFan* Are mod maps going to be easier to create? If so, will cameos be able to be imported into JUST maps, as opposed to RA2 where there had to be an entire mod created?
[Shen] d'oh
[Shinano] lol
[Transnote] and you can't be ea staff (sorry dam0)
*OogaShaka* My three questions are: 1. What methods and balances have been implemented to curb on early rushes? 2. Are superweapons optional? 3. Can you attack aircraft to aircraft in mid-air or only like RA2 aircraft to ground? Thank you. =)
* Montego sets mode: +l 94
[Shen] um, i resign my position as a webmaster, so now can i answer?
[Shen] j/k
[ImustDIE] i got the Q but i have no idea of the answer =P
[Transnote] lol
[Transnote] Free copy of Generals on the line...
[Transnote] and next week we'll be giving away 2 Generals BETA SLOTS away in our forum as well
[Transnote] answer in the forum
[Jamie[CNCSector]] no webmasters aloud right?
[dam0kles] ;)
[Transnote] no jamies allowed! =)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[rezenous] Answer in the forum?
[rezenous] Gahhh
* Shen would like to answer ;P
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[Shinano] Transnote, question, proper names, or just titles :)
[Transnote] names
* Shinano is an evil trivia man
[Transnote] like bob.
[Transnote] =)
[Shinano] ah, yes, there are four names that are correct actually
[Shinano] i'll give you a hint, you can find them on some of the participating sites...
[Transnote] you need to reply to the thread with the answer
* Montego sets mode: +l 93
[ImustDIE] oh forget that then.. im not gonna register!
[Transnote] shush =)
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[Jamie[CNCSector]] transnote good way of getting people to register :p
[ImustDIE] lol
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[Jamie[CNCSector]] I'll have to remember this trick
[moe] yeah nice spamage
[Shen] Trans: we're on to you
[Shinano] well he couldnt make it TOO easy
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[Jamie[CNCSector]] yeah I agree
[Jamie[CNCSector]] :)
[rezenous] I HAVE TO REPLY TO AN EMAIL!?
[rezenous] WTF
[rezenous] Fu Tranny
[rezenous] :/
[Transnote] no
[Transnote] reply in the forum
[Transnote] =)
[Transnote] and be nice
[rezenous] Any 3 btw?
* WWBot sets mode: +o Transnote
[Transnote] whoops =)
[rezenous] Any 3 generals?
[Transnote] Remember to stay in the forums as we give away 2 beta spots in the next week =)
[Shinano] has to be names though, not titles
[Shinano] and two, not three :)
[Transnote] we have a winner...
[Transnote] Planetshaun..
[Shinano] negative
[Transnote] but he gets disqualified for working for a fan site
[Transnote] =)
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[Shinano] he's incorrect
[rezenous] Eh
[Transnote] oh
[Transnote] yeah
[Transnote] burton =)
[Transnote] stryder?
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[Shinano] burton is not one, and general john's name was changed
[rezenous] I have one but it's taking ages to register :|
[Transnote] Stryder88
[Transnote] Junior Member
[Transnote] general griffin and general chan
[ImustDIE] give the winner a voice at least =P
[Shinano] minor spelling, but that's correct!
[Jamie[CNCSector]] someone own it?
[rezenous] Bah
[Stryder88] I WON!
[Stryder88] YESYESPYES
[Transnote] Stryder wins a copy of CNC Generals retail
[Stryder88] SWEET
[Shinano] general chan was the red army general, General Griffon was US air force general
[Stryder88] thanks guys
[rezenous] I woulda won that if I didn't have to reply tothat damn confirmation email :(
[ImustDIE] lol
[Ash] Congrats to Stryder!
[moe] haha
[Jamie[CNCSector]] I thought it was 3?
[Shinano] adam you work everywhere anyways :P
[Jamie[CNCSector]] not 2
[Shinano] 2 of three
[rezenous] Plus I had those damn pr0n emails in my inbox
[Jamie[CNCSector]] oh ok
[rezenous] pos
[rezenous] !
[Jamie[CNCSector]] lol
[rezenous] Steve, stfu :p
[Shinano] on with the questions!
* Shinano pokes ash
[Transnote] ok
[ImustDIE] well, maybe i can win the tshirt, lol
[Transnote] ash
[Ash] hmm
[rezenous] I'm not 'officially' attached to anywhere
[rezenous] ;)
[Transnote] i already gave away the t-shirt =)
[ImustDIE] aww
[TheKiller] i'm attached to everywhere
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[TheKiller] meh
[Transnote] Ok guys, lets get back to the chat
[Shen] TK, you're not attatched to my site
[Shen] :P
[TheKiller] shen
[Transnote] everyone has other things to do
[Transnote] Ash
[TheKiller] not yet
[Transnote] next q
[TheKiller] you just wait
[Ash] Here we go, resuming the questioning.
[Shen] not yet eh?
[Ash] *GreatGrizzly* I heard that 5 infantry units can go inside a humvee and shoot out of it, does the GLA and China have a unit that can do that?
[Shen] Unfortunately, no
[Shinano] no, only the US does
[Transnote] China can build a bunker on the overlord and put five infantry in it
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[Shinano] they can fire out in that manner
[Shinano] so I guess china can, to an extent
[Shinano] but nothing as mobile as a hummer
[Transnote] next q
[Shen] that is one of the most hotly debated issues btw
[Shinano] and may very well be modified in some way
[Shinano] we'll just have to wait and see :)
*LakerFan* Are mod maps going to be easier to create? If so, will cameos be able to be imported into JUST maps, as opposed to RA2 where there had to be an entire mod created?
[Ash] Hmm, emultra deserves a prize for all of this questions!
[Ash] *Emultra* Do you think rushing is easier or harder to stop in Generals
[Shinano] easier
[Transnote] Depends on the type of rush
[Shinano] overall, easier
[Shinano] rocketmen especially can blunt many rushes
* Montego sets mode: +l 88
[Transnote] Ash next q?
[Shen] oh Ash
* Transnote prods ash with a cow
[Shen] sometime today please?
* TheKiller prods ash with an /os akill
[Ash] Ok everyone, I'm asking if you can call off the questions for about 3 minutes: I'm still digging these from half way up the page
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[Transnote] Ok
[Ash] Just be patient =)
[Ash] *Navy_SEAL55_[GF]* Here is another question: How will you control where the Particle cannon fires? by waypoints?
[Transnote] no waypoints, you'll fire it as its in action
[Shinano] you will "guide it as you would a unit"
[Jamie[CNCSector]] moe
[Transnote] next q?
[Ash] *DDB* Hi, Ash "From what you have seen so far, are we going to have problems with pre-mature attacks from opposing forces soon after we enter a game ?"
[Transnote] you mean rushing? =)
[Shinano] the rush is not eliminated, that's for sure
[Shen] but you've got a lot more ways to counter it I think
[Shinano] but that's the point of the test, figuring out what's too weak, what's too strong
[Shinano] right now, the rush is just about right
[Shinano] scouting is key to that, so make sure you do that
[Transnote] ash?
[Ash] *Remirol_Nacnud* "If EAP stops supporting Generals as they did RA2, will the mod community work together to support the game themselves?"
[Transnote] we can try.
[Transnote] but we'll hafta see what happens.
[Transnote] next q ash?
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[Ash] *Emultra* Are MiG's more effective against ground/air?
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[Shen] I'd say ground if they're in large enough numbers
[Transnote] migs are effective against both as chinas only air unit
[dam0kles] and with black napalm!
[Shinano] they can create firestorms, and hence decimated ground forces
[Shen] dam0, I'll show you that your migs are not all powerful :P
[Transnote] the mig firestorms burn after they've been launched
[Shinano] we'll try to get some screens of that up for you
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[Transnote] i've seen a structure burn to death 15 seconds after the attack =)
[SEAL31] i have screens of migs attacking air units
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[SEAL31] migs are 1:1 against raptors
[Ash] *Axion* Do you feel as if all units for each army play an important role the entire game, or do some units become more or less useless as a game progresses?
[Transnote] hrm...
[Transnote] Tomahawk is kind of a luxury item....
[Transnote] for the us
[Shen] I'm tempted to say that all units play an important role the whole game but... I don't think that's really true
[Transnote] it won't make the win
[Transnote] Bomb Trucks are not as useful in late game for GLA
[Shinano] there are always units that will be less important
[Shinano] i disagree there
[Shen] Terrorists are less useful late game than they are early game
[Shinano] that is true
[Ash] Even Rangers have their use
[Shinano] ill agree there
[SEAL31] all units are useful if the player finds a way to use them effectively
[Transnote] I know you guys have all hung around for a long time...
[Transnote] and I thank everyone for coming
[Transnote] especially ash for helping
[Ash] If you have sent PM'S I will now answer myself
[dam0kles] Yes Ash! Good Job!!!
[Transnote] [url]http://www.renegadegenerals.com/forum[/url] will be giving away 2 beta spots next week...
*OogaShaka* =(
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[Transnote] if everyone is okay with it we'll go on and try to finish the questions we have
[Transnote] but wanted to thank anyone who couldn't stay
[Shinano] im free for a while yet
[Transnote] This chat channel is ALWAYS here
[Shinano] and happy to answer some more questions
[Jamie[CNCSector]] I got to jump and update site now
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[Transnote] on the Elite-IRC network, a cool bunch of guys
[Shen] How many questions are left? just wondering
[Transnote] and we're always here
[Jamie[CNCSector]] see ya soon guys :)
[Ash] Shen
*Arog* would u say this game is better than age of mythology??? please explain
[Transnote] feel free to come chill out =)
[Ash] I am NOT counting
[TheKiller] irc.elite-irc.net #ww
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[TheKiller] feel free
[Shen] right
[TheKiller] 24/7
[TheKiller] 365 days a year
[Transnote] next q?
[Jamie[Updating]] ;)
[Ash] *Emultra* How big are the maps in the beta?
[rezenous] 364 and a quater years.. numpty
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[Shinano] the biggest map is probably smalltown USA
[Shinano] it's... good size, and can feature 4 big bases quite comfortably
[Shinano] I don't think size is really an issue, but to give an example of scale, it takes a comanche a good 5-10 seconds to cross the map, depending on gamespeed
[Shinano] and comanches are fast buggers :)
[Shinano] there are much smalller maps too, like tourney arena, where tanks can cross the length of the map pretty quickly
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[SEAL31] [url]http://www.uprisingnet.com/gen/aa/[/url] - here are some screens of a few misc aircraft attacking each other in generals
[Transnote] next q ash?
[Ash] #*Bomer* Are their any lag issues with generals ?
[Transnote] As long as your opponent isn't on AOL
[moe] now and again
[Shen] Most of the time, I'd say no, but there are cases where lag can be bad
[Shinano] especially playing with soemone from overseas
[Transnote] you'll be fine =)
[SEAL31] by the way if anyone has any screenshot requests type /msg seal31 request here and ill take some and put them up at [url]http://www.uprisingnet.com/gen/[/url]
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[moe] with the games i've played, it has been fine
[TheKiller] seal
[TheKiller] cut spamming
[SEAL31] nit usually laggy
[TheKiller] its a bit too obvious
[Shinano] anyways, overall, the lag aint horrible
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[Shinano] but it needs optimization
*Dude[WWU]* Question : How would u rate Generals??
[Ash] *BigMac* hi again another question when u have time: has a unit limit been set per side in a battle?
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[Shinano] what would you expect from a beta? :)
[Shinano] no
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[Shinano] build as many as you can handle :)
[Shen] There are no unit limits at this time, nor do I think they intend to have them
[Shinano] you'll find your enemy wants to stop that from happening though
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[Shen] Hm, next question?
[Ash] *Dunhamzzz-EGN* Are there lots of tactical possibilites? like the flak track bomb and IFV combos of ra2?
[Transnote] yep
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[SEAL31] humvees can be used for such things
[dam0|afk] OverLoards too
[SEAL31] load it with diffrent infantry combos
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[Transnote] i loved the ifv combos (except the president one).. =)
[Shinano] short answer: yes :)
[Transnote] next q?
[SEAL31] for example: exquip rangers with flash bang grenades and load um into a humvee = anti infantry
*GreatGrizzly* Can the units fall through the map like in Renagade?
[Shinano] especially when you throw in your hero units
[Transnote] hero units are great...
*Dude[WWU]* Question: Even though generals is still in beta, how would u rate its performance?
[Shinano] burton is the infantry eradicator :)
[Transnote] and when you garison a building with them...
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[Transnote] the enemy doesn't see the building has been garisoned
[Transnote] ash post a q
[Shinano] note: hero units are just regular units that are a bit stronger and have some special talents, they're not like the heroes of WCIII
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[Transnote] ok
* Transnote sets mode: -m
[Carl] O_O!
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[Transnote] Post a question.
[Transnote] =)
[IonIXop[CNCSec]] wow, we can talk
[Transnote] while ash pees. =)
[Shen] why -m?
[RenGen_Visitor2] is this still going on?
[DthSyth17[GeneralsFactory]] Hey gusy hows everyone
[moe] yeah
[DthSyth17[GeneralsFactory]] guys*
[Carl] O_O!
[smartmlp[CNCGN]] hey dth
[Navy_SEAL55_[GF]] hi
[Planetshaun] Transnote I can answer questions to help
[DthSyth17[GeneralsFactory]] Hey smart
[Transnote] Anyone have a question? =)
[smartmlp[CNCGN]] I have not seen you online
[Transnote] planet: no
[Rocketerz] Hey
[Ash] back
[Transnote] =)
[dam0kles] btw, is someone creating a LOG of this?
[Drlife202-CNC] how many more questions to go
[DthSyth17[GeneralsFactory]] i was just online man
[Rocketerz] I can help
[Planetshaun] Come on I can help
[Ash] HUNDREDS
[rezenous] I'm logging, dam0kles
[smartmlp[CNCGN]] me and madz just won a 2v2
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[Shinano] yes there will be a log
[Shen] dam0: everyone is
[Shen] :P
[Transnote] ok ash is back from the loo
*GreatGrizzly* Can heros only built once?
[Ash] I have 9 PM boxes and over 100 q's
[rezenous] But mine will be the l33test
[Ash] *Emultra* Can you control units garrisoned in buildings, or is it just inside or outside?
[Transnote] ok
[ImustDIE] Because ash is afk
[dam0kles] I mean a clear history :) not just a log :)
[rezenous] I'm gonna edit into like a real interview :P~
[Transnote] lets go through 'em quick
[Shinano] you can order units to fire when they're garrisoned, that's it though
[Shen] Units garrisonned in buildings work the same way as in RA2
[Ash] Im back lol
[Shinano] they don';t use their special abilities
[Transnote] yes they do
[SEAL31] although, if you tell your rangers to use flash bangs than put them in they use those when firing
[Transnote] rangers in a building will flash bang
[Shinano] yes
[Shinano] that's a firing mode
[Shinano] different
[Transnote] snipers ina building will snipe
[Shinano] kell wont snipe vehicles
[Transnote] rocket infantry will fire rockets
*RenGen_Visitor* "will the recorded games that require the game programme to run, come with an easy way to convert them to a movie file for people without the game to see?"
[Shinano] only use his regular weapon
[Transnote] because you can't select it
[Transnote] =)
[Transnote] next q?
[Shinano] yes that's why I said you can order units to fire when they're garrisoned, that's it though :P
[Ash] *Emultra* What unit gives the most bang for the buck?
[Shinano] tough one
[SEAL31] yeah
[Shinano] id almost say the humble ranger
*GreatGrizzly* Is there any difference in the unit behavior during the night as apposed to the day?
[SEAL31] depends on what you use it for
[Shinano] can capture buildings for you
[Transnote] I love my Aurora... lotsa bang but too expensive
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[Shinano] but the basic crusader is also quite deadly
[Transnote] next q ash?
[Ash] *Yuri_Kenobi* Isn't the Bulldozers a little bit too big step away from CnC?
[SEAL31] not nessasarily
[SEAL31] its diffrent but it
doesnt take away the cnc feeling
*GreatGrizzly* Does china and gla have a unit that can clean up radioactive/biological messes like the medical humvee?
[Shinano] just a different way to build, doesn't detract from the game any, in fact it adds to it
[Transnote] i like it better...
[Transnote] because you can build anywhere
[SEAL31] just to clear things up, china and USA use bulldozers, GLA has worker infantry
[Transnote] you don't have to build on cement...
[Transnote] or close to a building
[Transnote] you can sneak a worker to an enemy base and build a tunnel network
*GreatGrizzly* Can you garreson your units in trains?
[RVMECH] nice slit
[SEAL31] ooooohh. not a good time
[Ash] Please hold on while the problenm is rectified by the able elite-irc team
[Transnote] We're gonna take a 2 minute break =)
[Transnote] great time to sign up at [url]http://www.renegadegenerals.com/forum[/url]
[Transnote] or visit [url]http://www.cncseries.com[/url]
[ImustDIE] lol
[RVMECH] spam
[Shen] Trans...
[Shen] i'm going to hit you
[Transnote] .... [url]http://www.cncuniverse.com[/url]
[Transnote] or even [url]http://www.cncden.com[/url] home of the lion! =)