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matsmiffIconcheaters13:27 01.09.06 

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Hi All.

As u can tell if u have read some of my previous posts I'm new to ra2 online, and enjoying it thoroughly. And I want to say just how helpful the strategy guides on this site are. They have played a massive part in me being able to record a 14-6 tournament record without knowing the maps etc.

What I would like is if some of you vets out there could be kind enough to explain to me some of the cheating methods used and how best to spot them?

I'm sure at least one of my losses was down to a cheater as he owned me massively and I saw no scouts etc etc. I don't want to sound like a whining "alot of units not much cash?" newbie, but I know when I'm fairly beaten. I know the xwis reporting system, I just need to tap some experienced brains.

Thanks
 
lukapoleanIcon...12:17 23.10.06 


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cheaters are so...boring... its like you play a totally pointless game... they anyway, i am new too...this website is actually extremly good ecxept for a few improvments... the one i am most hoping for is maybe a chat system or something between members...it sure would be goodGrin
Lukapolean
 
bigguy563Icon...21:56 23.10.06 

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Chat system? Do you mean like MSN messanger or something like that?
 
SpygonIcon...22:23 23.10.06 

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if so that would be pointless as when do you see another member online at the same time very rarely so u would be sitting about talk to yourself alot
 
lukapoleanIcon...12:07 24.10.06 


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that is not always true as i have seen you guys online more than once...anyway...it would be an improvment...you dont need to use it if they make that improvment, like you dont always NEED to log on into MSN messenger...

Lukapolean
 
r1zlaIcon...17:55 11.01.07 

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Hi All.

As u can tell if u have read some of my previous posts I'm new to ra2 online, and enjoying it thoroughly. And I want to say just how helpful the strategy guides on this site are. They have played a massive part in me being able to record a 14-6 tournament record without knowing the maps etc.

What I would like is if some of you vets out there could be kind enough to explain to me some of the cheating methods used and how best to spot them?

I'm sure at least one of my losses was down to a cheater as he owned me massively and I saw no scouts etc etc. I don't want to sound like a whining "alot of units not much cash?" newbie, but I know when I'm fairly beaten. I know the xwis reporting system, I just need to tap some experienced brains.

Thanks



Hi Matt. There is a few common ways to be cheated on ra2. The 1st and most prominent kind of cheat is "Disconnecting to avoid or force a loss". This is when the other player disconnectes from the internet or ctrl_alt_del end tasks ra2. Ussualy the cheat doesn't have it's desired effect which is to "wash" the game ( gives 0 points to both players instead of + - points) http://xwis.net/xcl/?lid=ra2 If this happens to you, you should make an effort to contact the player and ask for a freewin, if there is no response or they refuse then post on strike-team, for this you need to have /r/dpl screenshots.

Maphacking, a player begins the game with the map totally clear, no need to scout. The only way to prove this is by running XGS ( http://xhp.xwis.net/utilities/XGS.exe ) with every ladder game you play, you can then watch the replay and see exactly where your last opponent clicked, if clicked into unscouted area's then ST can ban them for map hacking. There is a big readme file for XGS on ST's homepage http://strike-team.net

Presidents (all unit hack)
The president is a unit that is in the missions, some hacks allow these to be made in game, when loaded into an ifv they become incredibly strong, XGS replay, /r/dpl screenshots, plus always try and get dpl screenshots of the actual president and also when it is in the ifv shotting, hovering the mouse over each shows the names.

chrono commando, chrono ivan's.(all unit hack)or (spy bug abuse)
these can be made legally in game, but they require a high level of tech and the use of spys. If in a 1v1 game, you know you have not had a spy infiltrate your lab, then you know the other person has obtained these units illegally, XGS replay is a must to prove this, also include /r/dpl screenshots.

More info about reporting cheaters can be found on strike-teams web site.
 
Lava2007IconThe spied units !!!02:04 12.01.07 

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Ya this cheat that the previous person did was correct. The process for it and you can't tell this if they have a gap generator !

1) Build Engineer
2) Build Spy
3) Force Fire ur battle lab (or another building)
4) Put the spy and the eng. in the same group BUT put the enf. 1st and then u must place a waypoint anywhere then u can put 1 on/in ur building !

That is how they do it ....

If your wondering how I know I know people that know how to do it and they told me but I don't cheat .... That is pointless to cheat unless you have 2 cheat to win which just goes to show that you can't learn from your mistakes or even ask a more experienced member ! (Player)

I will tutor u if u want me 2 Happy
 
bigguy563Icon...13:36 12.01.07 

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And restating r1zla's point, the only way you could prove this would be an XGS replay showing that he had chrono commandos without infiltrating your lab.
 
SpygonIcon...13:41 12.01.07 

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i hate cheaters they seem to be in all my fave games now Angry it just pisses me off as there no point unless it a funny cheat and you do it ilke once in a while but other than that there just for people that cant play well so they have to cheat
 
SymbologyIconI hear ya22:34 31.01.07 


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I hear ya the worst part about it they think that there so high on themselves that they think there above you but the problem is they probably cheated for so long that they forgotten how to play fair:Angry
 
lukapoleanIcon...13:57 01.02.07 


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lol...but i have met some cheaters that can play fair and are pretty good at it too!!some of my friends used to cheat..
Lukapolean
 
SpygonIcon...20:06 01.02.07 

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howd do you play fair and cheat as there opposites arent they Confused lol
 
lukapoleanIcon...04:17 03.02.07 


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well, i mean, he used to cheat and he is pretty good at it but he played me and well, learned, and now he is playing fair(but he can still cheat better than anyone i know;;lol)
Lukapolean
 
Apocalypse_TankIcon...07:31 01.06.07 

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Cheats and cheaters make the game not fun for everyone else
 
SpygonIcon...18:53 01.06.07 

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i agree with that if you cant play fair why play at all thats one of my mottos on cheating lol
 


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